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Here are some of the most frequently asked questions about Clear Creek. Click on the question you are interested in. 

STUDENT QUESTIONS

Is Clear Creek a camp or a school or what?
Are there wild animals?
Can we touch the animals?
Do we have to hike?
How long are the hikes?
What clothes should I bring?

What else can I bring?
What time do we go to bed?
When do we wake up?
What do we do on the night hike?
Do we have free time?
Will we roast marshmallows?
Can we buy stuff there?
Can I bring my Walkman or Gameboy?
What if it rains?
Does it ever snow there?
Is there a pool?
What will we eat?
Can I bring a cellular phone?

PARENT QUESTIONS

Are there wild animals?
Can I go with my son or daughter?
Who will be supervising the students?
How much does it cost?
What happens if someone gets hurt?
What happens if someone gets lost?
Do boys and girls sleep in the same place?
What will they be doing while they are there?
Can I call?
Can my child call me?
What about cellular telephones?
What if I must get in touch with my child?
What if my child gets homesick?
 





Is Clear Creek a camp or a school?
Clear Creek looks like a camp, complete with cabins, a dining hall, a campfire area, and trails running through a mountain setting.  You will have opportunities to hike, sing campfire songs, and perform skits.  Students also set the dining tables and help with clean-up after meals.  While hiking, our trail leaders will teach you a lot about nature and science.  You may also learn a thing or two at the campfire or in the dining hall.  So, Clear Creek is both a camp and a school.

Are there wild animals?
Yes.  Clear Creek is in the Angeles National Forest, which is a protected area of conservation set aside for, among other things, wildlife habitat.   We can't guarantee that you will see wild animals, but typically we see ground squirrels, gray squirrels, bats, various types of lizards, birds, snakes, and amphibians like salamanders and frogs.  It is possible that you could also see raccoons, foxes, and coyotes.  Bears and deer live in the area, but are infrequently seen.

Can we touch the animals?
Yes and no.  The wild animals don't usually let us get close enough to touch, and for safety's sake most shoudn't be touched, but in the spring and summer you can often pick up a frog or salamander down in the creek.  We also have a museum with some pet animals like a San Diego Gopher Snake that you can hold or pet.  Our dove cage is also a popular place where students can hold the doves.

Do we have to hike?
Yes.  Hiking is a big part of the Clear Creek weekend and you should be prepared to participate.  Our longest hike is about 2.5 miles, and we stop along the way for lunch.  We also have a night hike and a geology hike, each of which are much shorter.  These hikes are opportunities to learn something about the natural world, to get some exercise, and to enjoy a beautiful place with classmates and friends.

How long are the hikes?
The Saturday morning Canyon Hike is about 2.5 miles, the Saturday Night Hike is about 1 mile, and the Sunday morning Geology Hike is also about 1 mile.

What clothes should I bring?
You will need long pants (all the way down to your ankles) for the hikes, as well as shoes that go all the way around your foot and cover your toes and heels (no sandals or slippers).  In the summer it's usually hot, so light clothing is a good idea, including a light jacket or sweater for the evenings.  Light colored clothes are also beneficial because they retain less heat.

What else can I bring?
See the list that your teacher has for recommended items to bring as well as for items not to bring.  You may want to bring a water bottle to carry on hikes, but you are not allowed to bring other drinks or food because they can attract animals into your cabins.  You may want to bring mosquito repellent, but you shouldn't bring scented hairsprays, gels, or lotions because these tend to attract insects.  You may want to bring something to read or a deck of cards.  Inexpensive or disposable cameras are a good idea.  Items to definitely not bring include knives or other weapons, matches or fireworks, electronic games, televisions, music devices, cell phones (no reception up here), or any items that are illegal or disallowed for minors to possess.

What time do we go to bed?
Regular lights out (all quiet) time is 10:30 p.m.  This may be earlier than you are used to going to bed, but we are required to give you and our staff 8 hours of sleep time. The day is active and busy, so we think you will appreciate the chance to get a good nights sleep.

When do we wake up?
Rise and shine is at 6:30 a.m.  If you wake up earlier, just lie back and rest a while longer. You'll be busy soon enough.

What do we do on the night hike?
The night hike gives you a chance to explore in a unique way.  Different animals are out, the stars can be seen on clear nights, and things look very different.  You will study some astronomy, nocturnal animals, and human perception during the hike with some games and experiments, and most nights you will have the chance to use the telescope.  Night hike includes a solo walk, where you will have the opportunity to walk a small portion of the trail by yourself.  Don't worry!  Your counselors and teachers will be nearby and there's no way to get lost.  Many students say that the solo walk is their favorite part of the night hike.  And if you really don't feel comfortable, you can walk it with a friend.

Do we have free time?
Yes, but most of the weekend is scheduled program time.  You'll have some time before and after breakfast and dinner to shoot baskets, play ping pong, visit our birds, or hang out and take pictures with friends (we have jump ropes, soccer balls, handballs, carom boards, and other playground equipment).  You will also have some time in the cabin before bed to read, play cards, and hang out.  So yes, you do have free time, but it is limited to certain times within the schedule.

Will we roast marshmallows?
No.  We have a fire pit at our campfire/amphitheater area, but it is covered and very strictly regulated by the U.S. Forest Service.  Clear Creek is in a thick chaparral area, a plant community that burns easily, so it's not appropiate to have flaming marshmallows on sticks.

Can we buy stuff there?
No.  We don't have any vending machines or a store for food, drinks or other items.  So don't worry about bringing money, because there's nothing to buy.

Can I bring my Walkman or Gameboy?

No.  We want your Clear Creek experience to be very different from your normal day at home or school.  There's not  a lot of time in the schedule to use these things anyway.

What if it rains?
We still have our regular activities in the rain, with a few modifications.  We still hike, and if you don't have a raincoat we have plenty of rain ponchos for you to use throughout the weekend.  We have our campfire indoors (no fire, but still a lot of fun).  And depending on how much rain we get, we may do other activities indoors as well.

Does it ever snow there?
Yes, but not often.  Maybe once or twice in a regular winter, and the snow melts quickly.  We are at 3100 feet in elevation, still pretty low to get cold enough for snow.

Is there a pool?
Yes.  We use it during the summer only, which we start on June 1st and end on September 30th.  If you come during that period, bring swimsuits in if you like.  We typically swim for a couple of hours on Saturday afternoon.

What will we eat?
Typical dinners include lasagna, ravioli, taquitos, chicken, or hamburgers.   Dinner also comes with salad and dessert.  Depending upon the main dish, dinner may also include rice, french fries, rolls or beans.  Lunches are usually sandwiches, fruit, crackers and juice, followed by cookies and milk.  Breakfasts might be cereal, yogurt, pan dulce (Mexican sweet bread) or pancakes.

Can I bring a cellular phone?
No.  Cellular signals are not received here in the mountains and cell phones are listed on your packing list as something not to bring.

PARENT QUESTIONS:

Are there wild animals?
Yes.  Clear Creek is in the Angeles National Forest, which is a protected area of conservation set aside for, among other things, wildlife habitat.  We can't guarantee that the students will see any wild animals, but typically we see ground squirrels, gray squirrels, bats, various types of lizards, birds, snakes, and amphibians like salamanders and frogs.  It is possible that we could also see raccoons, foxes, and coyotes.  Bears and deer live in the area, but are infrequently seen.

Can I go with my son or daughter?
No.  Clear Creek is an LAUSD facility that only receives school groups with approved employee supervisors.  Only LAUSD students and employees are allowed to participate.  This helps us assure the safety of the students while in our care.  Also, a big part of the weekend, for many students, is the opportunity to share experiences independently from family.

Who will be supervising the students?
A teacher from your child's school assumes the role of lead sponsor and selects other school employees (teachers, teacher assistants, and/or other paraprofessionals) to go along on the trip.  A minimum of three adults from the school are required to attend, but schools may send more with permission.  The Clear Creek staff that will be conducting the weekend program include the Center Manager, the Program Coordinator, four Outdoor Education Assistants, and the Cafeteria Manager.  The Outdoor Education Assistants function as cabin counselors and trail teachers.  All center staff must pass the Districts rigorous hiring process, including background checks by the FBI and the Department of Justice.

How much does it cost?
Students in the school's free-lunch program pay nothing for their meals at Clear Creek.  Students in the reduced-lunch program pay $1.60 for meals, and all other students pay $8.00.  In addition, each student is asked to pay a total of $0.90 (90 cents) for insurance.  The school district pays for all facility and operating costs.  Visiting schools are responsible for arranging transportation.

What happens if someone gets hurt?
We generally see the same types of injuries that you would expect to see on the school playground, namely bumps, scrapes and
bruises.  Our staff is trained in Red Cross 1st Aid and CPR.  We treat minor injuries on the spot and return the student to regular activities, monitoring them as needed.  For more severe non emergency situations, we would transport a student and their teacher to Verdugo Hills Hospital Emergency Room.  In the rare event of a serious emergency, we would call 911.  There is a U.S. Forest Service fire station one mile from our site where paramedics are located, ambulance service is available within 15 minutes, and a Sheriff's helicopter transport can arrive within a few minutes.  Immediate attempts would be made to contact parents in the event of any injury requiring medical attention.

What happens if someone gets lost?
Your child's welfare is our primary concern.  A child has never been lost while in our care.  Students are supervised by an adult at all times and are never allowed to go off on their own.  Student leaders take frequent head counts and are trained to take appropriate actions in the event of a missing child.  Students are also counseled on what to do if they should become separated from the group.

Do boys and girls sleep in different cabins?
Yes.  Boys and male staff stay in the boys' cabins, while girls and female staff stay in the girls' cabin.

What will my child be doing while there?
Clear Creek is an outdoor education center.  It is our goal to provide the most positive outdoor experience possible for your child.  Students will be exposed to information about the natural world around them, how it works, and their place in it.  They will hike and learn about the local ecology.  They will also participate in team building games, arts & crafts, archery, swim (June through September only), and campfire program.  For many, the weekend will test their physical fitness, and still others may be challenged to face their fears of the unknown.  However, in presenting these challenges to your child, we take every precaution to assure his or her safety.  Students will learn about themselves and the world in which they live while spending the weekend in a beautiful place.

Can I call?
No.  We ask teachers not to give out our telephone number.  It would be very difficult to remove a student from the program to receive a phone call.  In addition, we attempt to keep our phone lines open for Clear Creek business.  However, you can contact your child in an emergency (see "What if I must get in touch with my child?").

Can my child call me?
No.  We have 60 students each weekend and only two office lines for district business - it is impractical for students to call home.  If a child has a fever, the teacher may contact you to ask permission to dispense Tylenol.  In cases of unacceptable student behavior, the teacher may contact you to request that you pick up your child upon suspension from the outdoor education program. Otherwise, you should not expect to hear from us over the weekend.  So please don't ask your child to contact you when they get here.  If there were any problems with a school groups’ arrival, you will be contacted regarding alternate plans such as picking up your child from school.

Can my child take a cellular phone?
No.  Cellular signals are not received here in the mountains and cell phones are listed on your packing list as something not to bring.

What if I must get in touch with my child?
In the event of an emergency that requires you to contact your son or daughter, call the Los Angeles Unified School Police (213) 625-6631.  The school police desk officer will be able to put you in contact with us. 

What if my child gets homesick?
This happens very rarely during our relatively short weekend program.  In addition,  Clear Creek staff are very adept at helping children adjust to their new surroundings.  In the event that a child is exceedingly homesick well into their second day here, the  teacher from the school will be asked to contact the parent for direction.